Mirror Ceiling. The most recent attempt by police to discover his remains was called off last summer. Brady claimed manual strangulation. There were occasions when they brought soil back from the moors. Perhaps it was as well., From a forensic point of view she was in remarkable shape. %%EOF We welcome questions. At the end of the 14-day trial, a jury found both guilty of the murders of Edward Evans and Lesley Ann Downey and Brady alone guilty of the murder of John Kilbride. even she said she was confused when taken there and brady also said it was the wrong place!! Cheap Wall Mirrors. Half adozen trips later and always in the same place it isnt funny anymore,its very spooky. Cross the roundabout and walk up Binn Road. She was probably killed in the spare bedroom. Today we remember how the Examiner reported the chilling murders carried out by the Yorkshire Ripper. Find out where you can walk your dog and the guidance to follow at different times of the year when walking near livestock and nesting birds. The victim was 18, had been working as a prostitute and was reported missing by her identical twin sister, Rita. Keiths body was tragically never found. Like Lesley, she lay on her side (but on her left); facing the road around 150 yards away, and less than 100 yards from where Lesley had been found. Police sources have said he has refused to speak to detectives, waving them away on their last visit to discuss their search of the moors. Burger bar owner speaks of terror as gunman strolls in and opens fire, 'I just have no idea why we whould be targeted', The key battlegrounds as Greater Manchester prepares to go to the polls, There are fears voters will forget to bring ID with them to polling stations and won't bother to return, Staff suspended by school following alleged 'naked bicycle prank', The school said it took 'immediate action' and launched an internal investigation, I will not sleep - Brighton boss Roberto De Zerbi admits dilemma ahead of Manchester United game. I recognised the voices on the tape that was played to me at the magistrates' court as those of myself, Myra and Ian Brady. Just four weeks before Hindley and Brady were arrested, the death penalty was abolished in the UK. Short brown hair was still present. They called off the excavation around 6.15pm due to deteriorating light and will resume tomorrow (Saturday). Scan this QR code to download the app now. Your email address will not be published. I am still searching and still having the same dreams. Keith, 12, was murdered in 1964 by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, one of. I used to go with Myra every night to the same place; this carried on until about February 1965. A theory (which was discussed at trial) is that Lesley was smothered as either Brady or Hindley put their hand over her nose whilst she had the gag in. He read Mein Kampf as part of a burgeoning obsession with Nazi Germany and also developed an interest in sexual perversion and cruelty, devouring erotic literature written by Marquis de Sade. Privacy Policy. Myra's Account. This walk is not suitable for wheelchairs due to the uneven terrain and some steeper sections. Other forms of mechanical asphyxia were not ruled out - including smothering - but I must add that her body suffered from several post-mortem injuries caused by animals, which included the disappearance of her abdominal organs. The remains of her left arm were found sticking above the peat; at the time, press likened it to a beckoning arm. Moors Murderer Ian Brady, who was jailed in 1966 along with his accomplice and girlfriend Myra Hindley for the murder of three children, is believed by Police to have revealed the location of the body of 12 year old victim Keith Benett in documents released to his legal advocate Jackie Powell. Roadblocks were set up outside the Ford Inn and the Huntsman Inn on the A635, and in Wessenden Head Road, Meltham. Remains have been found on Saddleworth Moor, but there is confusion over whether they are related to the "moors murders". Cookie Notice hbbd```b``~"@V1d I cut down to Shiny Brook in the sunshine thoughts of ghosts and bad deeds far from my mind and followed the line of the stream down to the reservoir where The Pennine Way led me back towards my car. Saddleworth Life - My own belief is that Brady chose to carry out the murder in this fashion due to either a conscious or unconscious reference to Fyodor Dostoevskys novel Crime and Punishment. Past searches for Keiths body have concentrated on the area around the streams known as Hoe Grain and Shiny Brook. The pair were found guilty in 1966 of torturing and killing John Kilbride, 12, Lesley Ann Downey, 10, and Edward Evans, 17. To view the full album please click on the link below; https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.828687837147172.1073741851.597048676977757&type=1, Your email address will not be published. Both legs were doubled up towards the abdomen, flexed at hips and knees. David Kirwan, the solicitor acting for Keith's mother Winnie Johnson, said police had not been in touch about any discovery. 16th October 1965 was the day that the body of 10-year-old Lesley Ann Downey was discovered upon Saddleworth Moor. Follow this road through the tunnel under the A62 and turn right towards the roundabout. Police are digging on Saddleworth Moor near Manchester after a skull was reportedly found that could belong to Moors murder victim Keith Bennett. Reports of todays memorial service can be viewed at the Manchester Evening News website here, and at the BBC here. I found there was a man and woman living at No 16. Cookie Notice Mrs Johnson hopes her Searching For Keith appeal will raise enough money to allow a new, private search of the moors to take place. A polythene sheet lay outside this, and was itself covered by a grey blanket. Alan does not wish to be disturbed at this time and we would ask that his request for privacy is respected. On January 6 1981 we reported that Sutcliffe, 35, had faced court charged with the murder of 20-year-old student Jacqueline Hill in Leeds. The MEN understands Greater Manchester Police received new information yesterday following excavation conducted by independent archaeologists that suggested a skull appeared to have been discovered on remote land on the moors. Take a short, linear walk along the Huddersfield narrow canal leading to a picturesque picnic spot at Eastergate packhorse bridge. This is a local news site for Saddleworth, not a website purely about Keith Bennett, although inevitably there is the odd article on here about Keith. The body was still clothed. Our report of May 7 1966 said: The Judge told Brady: These were three calculated, cruel, cold-blooded murders, and in your case, I pass the only sentence which the law now allows., He told Hindley: You have been found guilty of two equally horrible murders.. Sorry your first post didnt get put up last night, it was my fault. The victims' Officers were pictured digging on the moor near Dove Stone Reservoir in Greenfield today. It was about 1.30 am when I got in. Do you ever get that? We went up Ashton way. Both times we started off from the same place as I showed the police where Myra used to stop the van. He spent some time in Strangeways as a boy of 17 and, after his release in November 1957, he took a job as a stock clerk at a Manchester chemical firm Millwards Merchandising. I see you decided not to publish my posting from last night.Its ok it only took me 30 minutes to try and put into a context that made some sense.Can I suggest that you make it clear that this forum is only for armchair experts and psychics wanting to promote their latest books and work.Genuine people need not waste thier time posting comments then. Greater Manchester officers have been actively searching for Keith's body for the past three years. Police called off the search in August 1987 despite not having found Keith Bennett s body. Moorland safety advice after people have barbecue on moors. Brady initially claimed W/H stood for Woodhead, which is nowhere near Saddleworth Moor. I went with her in a little grey minivan. It was built just after 1829 and was named as the Wessenden Head Inn, at the time reputed to be the highest inn in Yorkshire (Tan Hill later had, and still has that title). The injury to her throat was evident, and the disarray of her clothing left detectives in no doubt that she had been sexually assaulted. Helen Rytka, 18, victim of Peter Sutcliffe, ' The Yorkshire Ripper'. As such, we have informed his brother of the potential development - he does not wish to be contacted at this time and asks that his privacy is respected.. "I have worked extremely closely with Winnie Johnson over the last two years and she has personally devoted every day of her life for the last four decades in order to give her son the proper burial that Brady and Hindley have denied him so far.". This is not true. Men and women screamed obscenities as the defendant was led into the court rooms, we reported. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. It is then paved most of the way across the moorland. It was played back to me what had been recorded. A little over 58 years ago, a little boy called Keith Bennett waved goodbye to his mum Winnie, and walked into an unspeakable crime. These are the basics from those accounts. We have always said that GMP would act on any significant information which may lead to the recovery of Keith and reunite him with his family. Campaigners say native wildlife such as stoats, weasels and birds of prey are being killed through traps, snares and guns to increase red grouse populations for shooting. A spokesman said it was not clear whether the remains were human, adding: "Inquiries are on-going.". Keith was just 12 when he was murdered by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley in 1964. National Cycle Network route 68 and Pennine Bridleway. He said that Myra's gran had said that me and my friend Margaret had been in the garden. I had some whisky, some gin and some wine. Their victims, Pauline Reade, 16, John Kilbride, 12, Keith Bennett, 12, Lesley Ann Downey, 10, and Edward Evans, 17, were buried on Saddleworth Moor. The Moors murders were carried out by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley between July 1963 and October 1965 To mark the Huddersfield Examiner reaching the 50,000 edition milestone on Wednesday 9 August we are running a series of nostalgia features. There is also an archive of original reports of the Moors Murders investigation and trial at The Times website here. 16th October 1965: Body of Lesley Ann Downey (10) discovered in a shallow grave on Hollin Brown Knoll. Clegg looked at his map and noticed an area two miles away called Wessenden Head. The body was enclosed in a white cotton blanket which had been knotted. We are at the very early stages of assessing the evidence which he brought to our attention, but have taken the decision to excavate an area of land with a view to determining what lies there. Required fields are marked *, Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. hb```a``b`e`Qea@ s\ r3Y)(0p``5L#&Ozp b5O2YCQ |, (X;bhv(ghbeH E Yorkshire Ripper moved back to prison from psychiatric hospital, Former Chief Constable Keith Hellawell believes Peter Sutcliffe may have killed EIGHT more women. Whatever force had done that had taken with it the rest of the chain, which we found inside., [THIS POST WAS A REWRITE OF ONE OF THE FIRST POSTS I EVER MADE IN THIS SUBREDDIT]. Bear in mind, weather can change from being hot to very windy so bring a jacket. At the end of the reservoir section there is a . Xavi and Mikel Arteta have given Man City the motivation they need for final nine fixtures. The Moors Murderers: The Full Story of Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. It is understood officers visited the area last night. Today we remember how the Examiner reported the chilling murders carried out by the Yorkshire Ripper The underpants were also rolled down in a band about an inch and a half broad at about mid-thigh level, and appeared to be knotted at the back (highlighting the brutality of the sexual assault John had been subjected to). When you reach Wessenden Head reservoir turn around and retrace your steps to return to Marsden. It's an horrific crime that still resonates today. Winnie Johnson told a memorial service for Keith at Manchester Cathedral that she "will never rest" until she can give him a proper funeral. For further details, see section marked Access. The Moors murders were carried out by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley between July 1963 and October 1965, in and around what is now Greater Manchester, England. David Smith - Hindley's 17-year-old brother-in-law - unwittingly witnessed the last murder, which took place on 6th October 1965 in the couple's living room that they shared with Hindley's grandmother. Brady, who lived nearby, was in the back seat. Also if Hindleys map is TURNED UPSIDE DOWN down i.e. The trousers were pulled down to about mid-thigh position. The soil in the region was apparently more sandy than in the grave on the opposite side of the road already investigated (i.e. Based on Bradys and Hindleys statements, possibly either manual strangulation or strangulation by ligature, - Keith Bennett: body not found; unknown. They were called Puppet and Lassie. It is uncertain where on the moor Edward would have been buried - the theory is somewhere closer to Wessenden Head Moor (which neighbours Saddleworth Moor) due to the W/H abbreviation found on the murder and burial plan. We went up on the moors about once or twice a week. I dont see any reason why Keith Bennett is not near where the others were found, by Hollin Brown Knoll/Adams Cross close to Greenfield Brook. First Group Bus Services No 182, 183, 184 or 185 from Huddersfield; 184 from Oldham. hi clare G if you would like to contact me go on facebook and look my name up,send a friends request and i will get back to you love and light suzanne onley. February 1978. Winnie Johnson told a memorial service for Keith at Manchester Cathedral that she will never rest until she can give him a proper funeral. This is in spite of the pathologists conclusion that Lesley was not strangled, but even upon hearing that re-iterated to him Brady stuck by his version of events. For more information, please see our Police have emphasised that they are in contact with Keith's brother Alan Bennett, who has devoted his life to finding his remains. Edwards body was found at Hindleys address in Hyde. They went to see The Nuremberg Trials at the cinema on their first date. hi We went in the white minivan to the usual place on the moors. Learn how your comment data is processed. The right forearm was folded across the chest and was under the body. Brighton are looking to enact revenge after their FA Cup semi-final defeat to Man United when they meet in the Premier League this week and De Zerbi has decisions to make. Retrieved 3 October 2022. Brady and Hindley were jailed for life in 1966. Strangulation by ligature excluded, despite what Brady and Hindley claimed. This was never proven to be the case, and no pathologic evidence supported it either. The gran also lived at No 16; she was called Mrs Maybury. Up for a challenge? Dogs should be kept under close control. I just wanted to let you know. The small bones of the feet and hands had separated. 14 2 r/MoorsMurders She and her sister had been living in a flat in Elmwood Avenue, Highfields. Ian helped a group of 12 of us with varying levels of fitness negotiate the Yorkshire three peaks in a decent time. 0 {4. A few more (albeit unsubstantial) theories, providing that she was killed in the bedroom: Lesley could have been smothered with the pillow or mattress on the bed, or she could have been smothered or suffocated manually, or by either the quilt/blanket, a bed sheet, a pillowcase or the scarf and handkerchief that were used to gag her prior to her death. Keith, 12, was murdered in 1964 by Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, one of five of their young victims. ISBN 978-1-399-09878-6. There are certain indications that it could be linked.. Refreshments could be found at the Isle of Skye Inn, on the A635 above Wessenden Head reservoir, which has since disappeared. 1 / 6 Lesley's mother Ann Downey (later Ann West) watches the police dig for her daughter in an unspecified location, October 1965. On A62 Manchester Road between Huddersfield and Oldham. Weve partnered with Cotswold Outdoor to help everyone make the most of their time outdoors in the places we care for. David Traynor told us that he could see a stream and a wall but the reason he has never been found is because a tree has since grown over the burial site, he also said that he WILL be found soon. I had it from the bottle. It also made it impossible to rule out natural causes as a cause of death (although this is obviously not the case - the other evidence from the case confirms that she was murdered). The helicopterlanded on the main A635 Holmfirth to Greenfield Road near the border between Yorkshire and Lancashire, and a convoy of police vehicles then drove further on to the moor. June 12, 2022 . Alan was eight when his brother vanished. The murders, named after the Yorkshire Moors where the victims' bodies were buried, stuck fast to the public consciousness. Ian Brady was born Ian Stewart in Glasgow on January 2 1938, the illegitimate son of a waitress. Marsden Moor is a one pawprint rated place. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.828687837147172.1073741851.597048676977757&type=1. Hindley died in 2002, aged 60. A report in the Examiner said: The killer was flown to the snow-lashed moor by police helicopter as armed police sealed off all roads leading to the area. Suffocation not excluded. Follow this track up the Wessenden Valley passing the four reservoirs; Butterley, Blakeley, Wessenden and Wessenden Head reservoirs in turn. Geoff who was a strong character never lost his interest in music, art and photography or his sense of humour and the delight . Hindley was being taken to an area stretching for hundreds of yards on either side of the road, where police have been searching for the bodies of the missing children for the past three weeks.. The cloud had lifted by this point and there were grand views across to the Black Hill and the transmitter mast. There's nowt in the papers, is there? John and Edith Evans, the bereaved parents of 17-year-old Edward Evans - the final victim of the Moors Murders - pictured in Hyde (during day 5 of the committal hearings against Ian Brady and Myra . Of course. He said: I'll break your back if I cop you in there again. I never spoke to Myra and lan again after that. According to Geoffrey Garrett and Andrew Nott (pathologists): We learned quite a lot about what happened to Pauline in the hours when she was at the mercy of the Moors Murderers, those last hours of her life. We'll provide live updates on this breaking news below. Hindley claimed that she wasnt in the room and that Brady may have strangled her, and said she saw a lesion on her neck when she came back into the bedroom (though no lesion was found). The right arm was beneath the body; the hand being near the right knee. 399 0 obj <>stream I saw a tape recorder in the house. Track is uneven underfoot throughout. 1st July 1987 - Pauline Reade (16)s body is discovered on Hollin Brown Knoll, Saddleworth Moor. Various shops in Marsden village (not National Trust). This Victorian stone spillway, or overflow, is the only listed spillway of its kind in the country. ': Parents' anger as they're fined 480 for taking children away during school, 'I work hard full-time and my wife works for the NHS so why cant we have that entitlement to go on a holiday? This could have destroyed the signs of her cause of death. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I did not see either Ian or Myra on Boxing Day. The article continued: Today more than eighty police officers were involved in the inquiry, and a Murder Control room was set up in Huddersfield. )13`af4i[y@fE4NsUv^a< rcgC/0I1pt(\R:@wXH)0pC30 C\LG Lesleys body was partially exposed upon the moor - my belief is that due to the snow on the ground on the morning of 27th December 1964 (the morning after she was killed), that may have caused some issues with her burial. She later testified as a witness for the prosecution at trial - Ive typed her entire evidence up because it is really interesting: I am twelve. Edward would no doubt have ended up buried somewhere on the moor later that day, had David Smith (brother-in-law of Hindley and witness to the killing) not reported the murder on that morning. He was telling me off. This stopped in February 1965 because two girls - they were twins - came to live near us, and I started going around with them. in my opinion surely WH could be referring to something as simple as WATER HEIGHT!, this would make perfect sense if keith was buried near a stream, as the photos released recently suggest ,this makes further food for thought to disagree with the theory that shiny brook is the correct location. Read more about the 'slaughter of the innocents' here. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Beneath the chilling headline Maniac killer strikes in town the Examiner reported in February 1978 on the murder of Helen Rytka. His body has yet to be found. The afternoon was blisteringly hot as I stepped through the bridleway gates and began the downhill walk towards Wessenden Head Reservoir, the water body sitting at the top of the Wessenden Valley. "vH0y,fn``@{H2 K-uL" +`5@,JsAF`@G#P=##d `%iBg`=` ~I This is the main Wessenden Valley track that goes up the Wessenden Valley, eventually emerging on the Wessenden Head Road near its junction with the A635. However sources at GMP. Police are treating the discovery, reportedly a skull, with caution. Paulines body was almost perfectly preserved in the peat. Officers met with Mr Edwards yesterday evening (29th September) and he was able to locate a site of interest and provide us with further details of the work he has been carrying out. 3 March 2019. "We have always said that GMP would act on any significant information which may lead to the recovery of Keith and reunite him with his family. From Marsden station head down Station Road turning right to cross the bridge over the river and onto Church Lane. Police were today examining the scene at Wessenden Head Road, which is close to where Moors Murderers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley buried their victims in the 1960s. From the prep emails to the pint at the end Ian kept the whole group in check and ensured we all got round without an issue. I would very much like to get in contact with you. This walk is not suitable for wheelchairs due to the uneven terrain and some steeper sections. The 12-year-old was one of. Home BIZARRE Car-on-snow-Wessenden-Head-Road . She was the first of three victims whose bodies were eventually found buried there. We sat in the van when we got there. p. 269. 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My mother let me go, with it being Christmas Eve. HODGES I don't know. Police have been digging on Saddleworth Moor for murder victim Keith Bennett after reports of human remains being found. We are in the very early stages of assessing the information which has been brought to our attention but have made the decision to act on it in line with a normal response to a report of this kind. "Following direct contact with the author, we were informed that he had discovered what he believes are potential human remains in a remote location on the Moors and he agreed to meet with officers yesterday afternoon to elaborate on his find and direct us to a site of interest. Half of her face was intact. I am not sure in which direction her body was facing; whether it was towards the road or away from it - Ill update this post if I find those details. The report added: Home Office minister Mr David Mellor said this morning that the decision to allow Hindley to return to the moor was taken after a request from the police.. Mr Di Stefano is quoted as saying that a forensic archaeologist is involved. I remember that the time they made the recording I was reading from the Gorton and Openshaw Reporter of 1st January 1965; it was an account of a little girl who was missing [Lesley Ann Downey]. Refreshing walk with some great views across the Yorkshire moors. Turn off Binn Road when you reach a public bridleway sign by a wide track on the right. He had been lured into the house by Hindley on Brady's request. (picture: Geograph/John Fielding). SOUVENIR BOOKLET 1950 - 1870; GREENFIELD RESERVOIR - construction 1897 - 1902 . The polices interest in Hoe Grain followed studies of photographs taken by Brady and Hindley, as well as testimony given by Hindley in prison before her death. I had no drink after my mother came to the house. Something went wrong, please try again later. She had spent a quarter of a century a few inches below the surface of a patch of land that was snowbound in winter, parched in summer, soaking in spring and wind-blown in autumn. The plot centres around an intelligent-but-poor young man (who Brady clearly related to) who carefully orchestrates and executes a plan to murder an associate with an axe. "It is far too early to be certain whether human remains have been discovered and this is expected to take some time. Similar roadblocks were erected on the A635 on the Lancashire side of the moor. Interesting point Hindley didnt know the names of the locations on the moors at the time of the murders only when she was taken back!!! While Hindley began to co-operate with prison authorities and eventually tried to help find the body of Keith Bennett, Brady refused the desperate appeals of Keith's grieving mother Winnie Johnson, leaving her in an appalling limbo. I going to saddleworth moor for you, I am look for keith bennitt for mis jonhons, Your email address will not be published. Police have been digging on Saddleworth Moor for murder victim Keith Bennett after reports of human remains being found. West Yorkshire police said they were called to reports of remains found at Wessenden Head Road on Saddleworth Moor, near Huddersfield. In the 1960s, Ian Brady, a slender 27-year-old stock clerk with sharp features and a pompadour, and his girlfriend, Myra Hindley, a 23-year-old typist with dyed blond hair, were . Also Brady was trying to locate the lightning struck tree on the moors when supposedly helping with the search, incidentally this is located between the cotton famine road and upperwood quarry (not far from hollin brown knoll) i dont for one moment imagine keith is buried there he had no intention of giving away the true location, he still has control whilst he remains undiscovered, however i do believe he wanted to find the tree to use as a vantage point to look down on the true site to make sure it was still undisturbed. In order to submit a comment to this post, please write this code along with your comment: fa7a3fef1ba9c79a5bd913355244e293. Brady went on hunger strike in 1999 and, after several failed attempts to be moved to a prison, he died in Ashworth Hospital in May 2017, aged 79. Her head was in the normal position. The legs and arms were kept in position by two cords. Why Are Real-Life British Serial Killers Rarely Represented on Film? Follow the road past the church and go straight ahead onto Fall Lane. They had all been murdered during 1963 and 1964. Wessenden Moor and Wessenden Head Moor AbstractThe Moors Murders were one of, if not the most where the bodies were found, form a boundary with West high profile murder cases in Britain in the 20th Century. Visit website Think what you like Im not anutter or attention seeker just saying what i saw, Hello Suzanne, jamie whincup partner 2020, north field sovepose arctic extreme,
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